“hold off, So is this a romantic date?” Podcast Episode 206: Celebrity Crushes | Autostraddle

It absolutely was my personal cousin’s look to select the film at Blockbuster and she’d plumped for

A Go to consider

. “Sorry. This is a lady motion picture,” my personal mommy warned. Whenever we got residence and saw it a family, I didn’t show my tears. Or my personal desire. I didn’t confess that I loved the film and, moreover, appreciated top honors. The year ended up being 2002 and between Mandy Moore within flick and Avril Lavigne publishing the woman debut album, I would discovered the 2 forms of celebrity crushes that will haunt the rest of my personal youth.

Star crushes imply a lot more to queer people than they do to straight individuals. They can be the basic expressions of queer desire or our first expressions of gender jealousy. They could be a safe place to experiment urges that are not prepared for all the real life.

That is why recently we’re speaking with journalist and podcaster Jordan Crucchiola everything about celeb crushes. We discuss how celebrity thirsting feels inclusive to Jordan as a panromantic gray asexual individual. We talk about the way I believe the majority of my celeb crushes tend to be variety of obtainable. And, definitely, we explore the famous earlier women on Christina’s liquid package.

But very first! Christina quizzes myself on a topic I’m sure small about — lesbian relationship novels

SHOW RECORDS

+ The real love books referenced in our online game had been:

The X Ingredient

,

Breaking Personality

,

Resort Queens

,

Payback’s a Witch

, and

The Brutal Truth

.

+ My research for two enthusiasts sharing a wall:

+ Christina’s reference for 2 lovers sharing a wall:

+ listed below are each of Jordan Crucchiola’s podcasts:

A Simple Podcast

The Whole Film Podcast

Aughtsterion

Disaster Women

Feeling Spotted

+ My famous

Euphoria

recaps
.

+ If anything like me, you have not a clue who Lindsay Shookus is actually,
here’s a timeline
of her commitment with Mr. Jennifer Lopez.

+ This is extremely daring of myself, because I do not remember every little thing I wrote to my Tumblr, but discover a hyperlink to
my personal Nicole Kidman job
.

+

The

Angelina Jolie Moving Stone cover
.

+ an indication to look at

P-Valley

and to review
Natalie’s protection
.

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EPISODE

Jordan:

Literally each time Jennifer Connelly’s face popped abreast of display, each time i simply moved, “Oh, Jesus.”

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

(laughs)

Jordan:

Like, audibly. We, like, gasped and “Oh, Jesus,” like every screwing time.

[theme song plays]

Drew:

Hi, I Am Drew.

Christina:

And I Also’m Christina.

Drew:

And thanks for visiting Hold Off, Is It A Romantic Date?.

Christina:

You realize, hold, Is This A Date? is an Autostraddle podcast when we constantly forget about exactly who claims just what, regardless of what long we have tape-recorded. Uh, I think which is in fact really gorgeous. And my personal earphones just decrease right off my personal head. Very.

Drew:

So a substantial s—, strong beginning.

Christina:

A stronger beginning. But mainly, it really is a podcast about dating and, like, learning just what matchmaking is actually and when we know simple tips to do so, similar to we find out easily learn how to keep my personal earphones to my really mind.

Drew:

That is great. Um, i’m Drew Gregory. I am (laughs) I’m, uh… Or will you… But do you wish us to dwell on that longer? I’m acquiring looks.

Christina:

No, I Am merely dwelling…

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

…on my self.

Drew:

Great.

Christina:

It is best in the event that you talk, i believe. (laughs)

Drew:

Appropriate. Um, uh, i’m called Drew Gregory. I am a filmmaker and a writer for Autostraddle. I’m a queer trans woman as well. Those are identification tags that I have. Christina?

Christina:

Yes, absolutely. I Am Christina Tucker. I’m also an author at Autostraddle and a podcaster. And seriously, this thirty days I’ve actually just been like a woman about town. I actually just been like—

Drew:

Mm.

Christina:

—woman most importantly, largely in a variety of—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—beaches, uh, in Jersey Shore.

Drew:

You truly have.

Christina:

But still feeling very as a whole and unique in a way that today we demonstrably believe exhausted by.

Drew:

Yes.

Christina:

I’m dark and gay, and this rocks for me.

Drew:

I enjoy that. (laughs)

Christina:

Cool. I’m not sure exactly why I’m very strange today. We, like, have no idea just who i’m. What’s going on?

Drew:

Its okay. We are gonna continue goin’.

Christina:

The thing I do have, however, Drew, is a game title.

Drew:

Mm-hmm. Give Thanks To God.

Christina:

Which online game Im evaluating your knowledge of anything I’m Sure you don’t have most understanding of, that is—

Drew:

Oh God.

Christina:

–fun. Um, it is a… it’s labeled as… I really don’t already have a name for it. I possibly should’ve considered a name. But essentially, I’m going to supply three lesbian love brands, and you’re heading—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—to need tell me do you know the genuine types of three.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

Two You will find created, you’re genuine. And you are gonna have to find the genuine one and let me know how you feel it is more about.

Drew:

Great. Okay.

Christina:

Do you want?

Drew:

I will be. What the video game.

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

Right here we go. One three.

The X Element

,

The It Element

, and

Reality folks

.

Drew:

Huh. It is funny, ‘cause might think that

The X Ingredient

would in fact be

The X Aspect

with

The It Factor

, but—

Christina:

Sure.

Drew:

We wanna state… I just… Oh, I’m hoping I am not inadvertently insulting you, but personally i think like

The X Element

may be the clunkiest, and so you would not attended up with that. It should be genuine.

Christina:

You happen to be correct. (laughs)

Drew:

Yes.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

Wow, I’m so happy.

Christina:

What do you believe

The X Ingredient

is mostly about?

Drew:

Um, In my opinion it really is about two lesbians who are exes and become for a passing fancy reality cooking show that’s type of like

Chopped

, but, like, somewhere within

Chopped

and

Great British Baking Show

. Like, it is on for a while it has actually sort of the current weather of

Chopped

. Um, and they’re exes and it… It is sort of want a… I don’t know if this would depend as an enemies to enthusiasts simply because they were enthusiasts at one-point, but it is like an exes to straight back collectively.

Christina:

I love that. In addition like that by asking you to inform me personally what you think these publications go for about, i have just generated you produce romance plots.

Drew:

I favor it.

Christina:

That is truly enjoyable. Uh, regrettably

The X Element

is actually, uh, about an assistant who sleeps together manager. And when I began reading it a week ago about coastline, I said, “this really is absolutely a

Devil Wears Prada

fanfic that has converted into a real book.” Once I tell you we check the

Devil Wears Prada

fanfic, we sure have actually. So’s a journey.

Drew:

Hold off, but why is it called

The X Ingredient

?

Christina:

Really, from inside the initial fanfic, the X component had been… there clearly was some type of reason that Miranda had all of the woman assistants, uh, eat this lady out to orgasm. Um.

Drew:

Wow.

Christina:

Can’t truly keep in mind precisely what the, the storyline, the backstory ,was thereon, um, in new one, contained in this genuine published adaptation i ought to state, uh, the X component I guess is, I don’t know, just, like, that the woman assistant’s hot and she’s like, “Oh, i’m homosexual today and I also wanna have sex together.” Like, I don’t know. The X ingredient is hot.

Drew:

Adequate for me personally. Okay.

Christina:

There you decide to go.

Drew:

Round two.

Christina:

Round two.

Broken Hearts Club

…

Drew:

Uh-huh.

Christina:

…

Busting Character

,

Opting for Broke

.

Drew:

Ooh, those appear to be they may be genuine. I really like it to be

Busting Personality

, but In my opinion

Broken Hearts Club

is real.

Christina:

Sadly,

Broken Hearts Club

is certainly not actual. And lucky for you,

Busting Character

is actually actual.

Drew:

Oh my personal Jesus, i will’ve only gone using my impulse.

Christina:

Opt for the gut, hottie.

Drew:


Splitting Personality

. Okay, truly about sort of like female Daniel Day-Lewis, like a female star exactly who takes the woman strategy operating very severely, and she develops a connection together co-star. But her co-star, it really is not clear for her co-star and for the star if the co-star is in really love together or even in love with her fictional character. And hijinks ensue.

Christina:

Truthfully, that isn’t far off from real plot of

Busting Character

, that’s actually about two actresses, one who is, uh, already been known as a bitch but is certainly not, but is only being, uh, badmouthed by her showrunner because she is on like a

Grey’s Anatomy

sort health show—

Drew:

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Christina:

—that has actually really gone off the rails. Her fictional characteris the bitch.

Drew:

Mm-hmm.

Christina:

And, uh, the woman brand-new co-star summer time — that is right, her name’s Summer — is really lovely and delightful. And because of really bonkers plot reasons, they need to have a fake commitment. Nonetheless’re both gay so…

Drew:

So nothing occurs. They don’t really develop any feelings.

Christina:

Yeah, so they never… Yeah, nothing.

Drew:

They never hook up. No.

Christina:

Nothing occurs. They never ever explore it and so they have never intercourse.

Drew:

Mm-hmm.

Christina:

Yep, that is just what happens.

Drew:

Often that’s the way it goes.

Christina:

Fine, your upcoming three.

Hotel Queens

,

News Moguls

, or

Eatery Monarchs

.

Drew:

Okay, I Am going to follow my impulse and go with one that I Would Like To be real—

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

—and hope that that is real.

Resort Queens

.

Christina:


Hotel Queens

is genuine.

Drew:

Wow, I Am eliminating it. (laughs)

Christina:

You’re destroying this. For a person would you not review a lot of lesbian relationship, uh, it really is inside blood, hottie.

Drew:

Okay, i will today state the land that I hope it is, though I’m pretty sure predicated on my comprehension of posting sector this is simply not the truth. But I want it to be about two participants on a show comparable to, love,

Drag Race

‘cause you’re not truly designed to, want, be in each other’s spaces but, you are sure that, they stay-in a resort for the whole filming associated with tv series. So that they develop, like, a sort of remarkable event that for some time cannot be consummated, but their spaces tend to be alongside each other so that they, like, knock on the wall surface in-between them after which while they are filming, there is exactly like every tension and it’s… And yeah, that is, that is what i would like

Hotel Queens

is when it comes to.

Christina:

That seems rather hot. Um, that is not what

Resort Queens

is about. It’s simply about a lady exactly who runs motels and, uh, another woman exactly who operates a competing resort.

Drew:

Sure, sure.

Christina:

Which works well with a fighting resort cycle and, uh—

Drew:

Sure, sure, certain.

Christina:

—quite literally tend to be lodge queens.

Drew:

Sure, sure.

Christina:

But Everyone loves that electricity. I love the slamming on the… really, uh,

bump 3 x on ceiling if you’d like me personally

electricity, which I fancy.

/fuck-older-women.html

Drew:

I happened to be referencing

Bright Superstar

, and I like every, I like all of our different social points, you are aware.

Christina:

I adore the minds.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

I do believe minds are very stunning.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

All right,

Paid in Paradise

.

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:


The Repayment Arrange

.

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

.

Drew:

Oh,

Payback’s a Witch

noises enjoyable. I want with

Payback’s a Witch

.

Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

. And it’s also enjoyable ‘cause it really is a real publication.

Drew:

Cool.

Christina:

Let me know what you believe

Payback’s a Witch

is approximately.

Drew:

Okay, I Acquired it.

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

So a young homosexual witch is actually struggling which will make rent during the early several months for the pandemic.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

While the landlord is similar to, “No, you must however give money.” And she actually is like, “But have a look, like, all these… You know, like, you can’t evict me,” as well as these different things and like, “you need to give myself a break,” and “It’s a pandemic.” Additionally the property manager’s love, “No, I’m a landlord. I hate you.”

And so next she’s like… She goes, “No, I’m a witch,” and so after that she begins tormenting the landlord. Love tale just isn’t making use of the property manager, maybe not an enemies-to-lovers scenario because—

Christina:

‘Cause landlords tend to be terrible. Yes. (laughs)

Drew:

But in fact she finds out that her next-door neighbor is also a witch and a lesbian, so they torment the property manager collectively and belong love on the way. It kind of provides like a Roald Dahl power, like

The Twits

. Or

Fantastic Mr. Fox

. Like, there is not truly, like… there is not a lot of dispute the moment the initial dispute occurs. Like, the pair of them simply are just like, “We’re both witches. We’re gonna torment this person whom is entitled to be tormented.” Then they’ve got gender.

Christina:

That is in fact truly attractive. Uh,

Payback’s a Witch

is all about, alternatively, a woman who’s, you guessed it, a witch just who returns to the woman hometown in which oahu is the sole place that she will be able to carry out magic—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—because absolutely like a secret pond. This lady has already been without capabilities.

Drew:

Fun. Ooh.

Christina:

Um, and she satisfies a, a lady she had a crush on in high school. Uh, there is like a complete extended, like, mystery world-building thing because of the area therefore the households that run the town. They get together. It is very sweet. Fun guide,

Payback’s a Witch

.

Drew:

Seriously, of this ones up until now, that’s the any I would most wanna browse.

Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

is very enjoyable. Uh, you will find a sequel to that guide, but it’s unfortuitously about right individuals. Thus.

Drew:

Weird.

Christina:

You win some, you drop some. Okay, here’s all of our final one.

Honesty and Second Opportunities

,

Whenever Reality Satisfies Fiction

—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—or

The Brutal Reality

.

Drew:

Ooh. I am gonna go with

Whenever Reality Meets Fiction

.

Christina:

Mm, that will be sadly from my personal mind alone. Uh,

The Brutal Reality

, however…

Drew:

The good news is that

The Brutal Reality

and

Whenever Facts Meets Fiction

, In My Opinion they are both about the same thing and that’s—

Christina:

Yeah, they’d end up being.

Drew:

—novel-length fanfiction of

The Day Program

as well as Bradley Jackson and her truth telling. But I imagine if it had been released, for copyright laws explanations they performed have to transform some particulars. So the woman name is maybe not Bradley Jackson any longer, but it’s in the same way plotted.

Christina:

Basically an embarrassment because Bradley Jackson is actually leading among the greatest personality labels ever before put to paper, um, despite how—

Drew:

Positively.

Christina:

—ridiculous every little thing regarding it is. But congratulations thereon Emmy nom, Reese.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

(laughs)

The Brutal Truth

is approximately a media mogul just who gets control of a battling paper and falls in deep love with the criminal activity copywriter, who writes—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—at the night. Uh, they’ve got a very sweet coming together. The mass media mogul is clearly really mean and like two decades older than she actually is. It is incredible stuff.

Drew:

Positive.

Christina:

And I will, because I worry plenty for the audience, demonstrably include website links to all of the genuine guides when you look at the show records.

Drew:

Incredible.

Christina:

Together with rest of them, they get back into my personal brain in which they belong. Additionally, picking out games of publications… Like i could produce plots for a romance books the entire day. Titles is, like, actually shockingly challenging.

Drew:

Yeah, you did excellent.

Christina:

Thank-you. I recently required that accompany.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

Our very own very special guest is among my favorite individuals thirst about stars with. So special guest, why not introduce your self so we could possibly get into star crush talk?

Jordan:

Uh, hello. Hi, Christina. It Really Is a— And Drew. Hello. I, I’m Jordan Crucchiola. Incase you listen to any one of my podcasts, you’ve probably started using Simple Podcast which I performed with Christina. So that as I mentioned as I logged onto this chat, the very last time we had been on a pod collectively was as soon as we had been choosing Blake Lively.

Christina:

And, as I remember, texting feverishly, uh, off-mic—

Jordan:

Yeah.

Christina:

—about wow, Blake Livelyis just in some Zoom place.

Jordan:

(laughs)

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

There the woman is. She actually is had gotten a whole lot tresses. What’s occurring? She is talkin’ to all of us for such a long time.

Jordan:

Go with Jesus, Blake. Many thanks.

Christina:

It was crazy times. Wild instances.

Jordan:

(laughs)

Drew:

Want to say a little more about who you really are?

Jordan:

Sure, sure. Um, I, I would like to claim that Im somebody who likes Drew Gregory’s the thing I think about to-be conclusive

Euphoria

recaps.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

Wow. Thanks a lot.

Jordan:

There seemed to be certain one in which, um… as the program helps make me personally so incredibly… Hunter Schafer is actually, uh, an angel from Jesus.

Christina:

Yeah.

Jordan:

As well as the tv series tends to make myself extremely uncomfortable in the solitary brain-trust creator, executor, producer, movie director, copywriter, gazes upon Hunter.

Christina:

Mm-hmm.

Drew:

Yeah.